Are you serving cookies at today's WOD? Those look awesome!

I would highly, highly encourage everyone here to take on this challenge; I certainly will be.

Looking back at both my own training logs, and at the progress of our many members over the history of CFNYC, I can confidently state that consistency is by far the single largest predictor of success with CrossFit.

Simply put, the people who do the WODs most reliably see the most impressive results.

I'm thinking I might jump on a train and head in for Angie. Who else is hitting it today?

I'll be there, are the cookies are first come first eat?

I'll take up the challenge. What type of flexibility will there be for travel or crazy work schedules? Will there be a list of subs that we can do on the road?

I'll definitely take up the challenge although I think I could eat all 274 cookies within the first month if I really dedicated myself to it.

Black Box 2.0 is Open from now until the last athlete finishes.
No charge today for drop-ins.
Post to Comments, if you are heading in.

So Hari came up with this Black Box Challenge and I like the idea a lot but I have some suggestions:

1) Since not everyone can follow the 3-on/1-off schedule, I believe you should be allowed to count CFNYC-programmed rest-day WODs towards your WOD total, not just crossfit.com WODs. I believe strongly in our own programming when it's a rest day on the main site and to me those "count" just as much as main site WODs do. In addition, given the random nature of crossfit-style programming, I think whether you're on the main site's schedule or your own schedule, consistency with hitting the workouts will reward you equally either way.

2) While I admire the desire to go for Rx'd whenever possible, I hate to see it abused into people turning in hour-long Rx'd "Angie"'s and 15-minute long Rx'd "Fran"'s. Using "Fran" as an example since it's a well-known CF benchmark, let me point out that it shouldn't take more than 3-5 minutes to do that WOD and in my humble opinion anything over 10 minutes (TWICE as long as it *should* take, so PLENTY of time) says to me you're going too heavy and or need to change up the rep schema (either reducing reps or restructuring them) so that you can finish fast. Otherwise, you have fundamentally changed the stimulus intended and reduced the intensity. If crossfit-style training is all about intensity (force x distance / time), then you're following the letter of the law but not really living up to the spirit of crossfit.

3)And in that regard of the spirit of crossfit, let's not forget virtuosity of movement, full range of motion, and skill development. If your instructor is yelling at you about cheating reps the whole workout and then you count that workout, fine, but try better next time to not be a time whore. : )

Anybody else in for rest day fun?
It's Lt. Gabe and Nicole W so far.

Jeff, keep me updated for tomorrow night. My hockey game is at 6, so I'll be in sometime around 9 to meet up.

This might be useful after doing all those pull ups and push ups.

http://gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6653#6653

26:13
I did better last time.

I think some people have a great capacity for avoiding WOD's that don't appeal to their strengths, and that allowing people to pick and choose substitute WOD's only encourages this sort of approach. (Skip the 10K and then just do whatever the Box is doing on Rest Day. Skip "Eva" and then substitute dead lifts. Etc.)

The point of the challenge is just that--to be a challenge. I see this challenge as being likely to be picked up by others in the CrossFit Community. One of my objectives was to create a standardized set of rules, so that people could measure their performance relative to that of any other CrossFitter.

I realize that those who travel cannot keep up with the main site WOD's as easily as those who do not. This doesn't mean these people can't maintain a great work ethic; it just means they can't compete effectively in a challenge of doing the Main Site WOD's.

There is no question that instructors will occasionally need to cut people off in order to keep classes on schedule and prevent injuries. But when time permits and the athlete is pushing rather than hurting him or herself, I see nothing wrong with beginners trying to do the WOD as RX'd, even if that means taking 15 minutes to do "Fran." I think this is an area where the instructor needs to make a judgment call.

As a practical matter, people with 15-minute Fran's and 60-minute Angie's aren't going to be doing most of the WOD's as RX'd anyway, so there is little point in their fixating on that aspect of the challenge. New people should be concentrating primarily on maximizing their total number of WOD's for the year.

My mind is not made up. I remain open to those wishing to continue to debate these points.

"Angie"

Hari 21:33
Juan 26:13

"J.T"

Zach 15:17
Craig 16:24
Tripp 14:28 (HSPU's to 25-lb = 2 inch plate)

Thanks Hari for opening up today. It was a nice afternoon of CrossFitting.

I love the idea of the challenge, even though I'm sure I will run into some difficulties once I go back on active duty this summer.

Back Squat
225x5
255x5
275x5
305x5
320x5
Then did Angie
18:55
Squat depth towards the end were probably borderline.
Guys those Angie times are impressive. Happy holidays.

my understanding from the crossfit hq website is that the top crossfit athletes are the ones that did quite a bit of strength training before starting crossfit. I do believe that this is the case for our top nyc athletes as well. if this is not true please let me know. if it is true. then why is there no pure weekly heavy strength training going to be offered at the box?

Ari,

"my understanding from the crossfit hq website is that the top crossfit athletes are the ones that did quite a bit of strength training before starting crossfit."

On what specifically do you base your understanding?

Correlation is not causation. My sense is that many of the top crossfitters nationally and in NYC are current or former athletes, and that it is the routine and discipline associated with being an athlete (which often includes significant strength training) that you are noticing.

This is not to say that strength is not critical; it is. All things being equal, more strength is always preferable to less. So too, more endurance, balance, speed, coordination, etc. are also preferable to less.

The thing is, Hari, strength has carryover to every other aspect as well. Being stronger means that if you can deadlift 500lbs, DL'ing 225 is going to be that much easier in Diane when you first start. Cleaning 300lbs will make WODs like Grace and Elizabeth that much easier. Being a former gymnast will give you a huge advantage at simple exercises such as chinups, muscleups, pushups, and dips; these exercises are cake compared to higher level strength skills. You will automatically have an advantage by being strong. You only need to exert a fraction of your strength in order to move at the prescribed distance/speed/time.

rest day drinks and/or dinner and/or movie:
anybody else in for tonight?

I do not disagree with Brian's point.

However, in my experience, most people who drift from the WOD's to "Starting Strength," "Performance Menu," or endurance events rarely come back. Rather than becoming a means to an ends, these alternatives become ends in themselves. The athletes end up picking and choosing their WOD's, if they continue doing WOD's at all.

We have made a decision at CrossFit NYC to position ourselves as the best possible facility for following the main site WOD's. In developing our programming, this objective is and will remain first and foremost. In time, we may offer additional related programming, but at this point, we are still focusing on our main objective.

I do not disagree with Brian's point.

However, in my experience, most people who drift from the WOD's to "Starting Strength," "Performance Menu," or endurance events rarely come back. Rather than becoming a means to an ends, these alternatives become ends in themselves. The athletes end up picking and choosing their WOD's, if they continue doing WOD's at all.

We have made a decision at CrossFit NYC to position ourselves as the best possible facility for following the main site WOD's. In developing our programming, this objective is and will remain first and foremost. In time, we may offer additional related programming, but at this point, we are still focusing on our main objective.

I think this challenge provides an interesting focus - getting it done. Following the Crossfit Prescription as closely as posible (or perfectly, if you can) for a year.
I would suggest that people do some "baseline" testing as the beginning before they start the new year, or at the very beginning. Perhaps crazy things like body fat percentage, or maybe the Crossfit baseline from Petranek. At the very least, take stock of your current PRs from the past few months, or year and then re-examine after a year of following the prescription.

On a personal note, it will be impossible for me to follow this challenge as laid out above due to the reality of my travel schedule and the locations to which I travel. However, I will join in the spirit of the challenge. My personal modification is this: To adhere to my 5-on/ 2-off when I am in NYC (likely with an additional rest day every two weeks, still thinking on that), making sure to incorporate as many, if not all of the Mainsite WODs. When I am in the field (likely about half the year), I will do the WODs as Rx'd as often as possible. In places with no access the appropriate equipment I will make sure to follow the schedule doing alternate WODs from my trainer (Jacinto, who has given me a great list of alternatives for my travel) that are as close as possible to the WOD in terms of exercises and objectives.

At the very least I want to try for continuity of just getting it done.

Now, on the question of doing things as Rx'd: This is a goal of mine and I am pushing to be able to do all WODs as Rx'd. However, I agree with Allison that some people should not. More importantly, we should keep in mind the purpose of the WOD in question. Is it a strength, MetCon, or Skill focus? Let's take Fran. Fran is clearly supposed to be a MetCon with "recommended" time under 5 mins. In this case, doing it "as Rx'd" in 20 minutes defeats the purpose of why it is being done and how it fits into the bigger picture programming. We've discussed this here before. Another example might be trying to do a very heave DL as Rx'd but sacrificing form, or cheating. Again, not serving the purpose...

All that said, this is where I look to my coach to help me gain and improve and make suggestions that will get me up to being able to do the WODs as Rx'd.

I think there is a lot of room for supplemental work within the Crossfit programme, whether that be in strength, or other skills. I would love to hear a bit more about that in these comment pages. I am looking to add strength work in the new year and have been discussing with Jacinto. It is all about how you define your goals and what you want to get out of what you are doing. Then you plan for that. AS Hari has said, CFNYC has set itself up to be the "best possible facility for following the main site WODs" and I respect that. It doesn't mean that this is each individual's focus, however, we can build around this. As coach Glassman says in the Crossfit FAQ, point 1.5:

Part of the crossfit philosophy includes pursuing/learning another sport or activity, and many crossfitters are also martial artists and competitive athletes in a variety of disciplines.
However, if you work the WODs hard, you will find yourself at an improved level of fitness, and for lots of us, the WOD is our primary "sport."
If you pursue another activity, you will need to balance your work/rest cycles and be sure to allow for recovery. Sometimes, you will need extra days off or to consider a WOD as "active rest" done at a lower intensity.

"When I am in the field (likely about half the year), I will do the WODs as Rx'd as often as possible. In places with no access the appropriate equipment I will make sure to follow the schedule doing alternate WODs from my trainer (Jacinto, who has given me a great list of alternatives for my travel) that are as close as possible to the WOD in terms of exercises and objectives." -- Kirk

Kirk and Jacinto-- What does a boy have to do to gain access to this Holy Grail of travel WOD's?

Well said Kirk - I completely agree with most everything you said. I too will be happy to participate in the challenge, but with some caveats as well. In particular, I think I need to recognize when my other activities (namely firefighting) create an unfavorable imbalance in my needed work/rest cycling. For example, this Monday was a rest day. However, I climbed about 30 to 40 flights of stairs with gear and tools. That is a fairly decent WOD I think - at least enough work to violate the "rest" day.

One of the things I love about CrossFit is the axiom that life isn't broken down into "leg days" and "arm days" - so why would you train that way. In the same vein, life isn't broken down into "WOD Days" and "Rest Days," so why train that way? I suppose what's missing is the imperative to recognize what your specific requirements are for work/rest cycling and to listen to your body. That may not always line up with WODs or Rest days, but I think, as Kirk said, "getting it done" should be the primary focus.

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