TODAY'S SCHEDULE:
10am Free Beginners' Class (Manhattan)
11am Workout of the Day Class (Manhattan)
1pm Free Beginners' Class (Brooklyn)
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155 pound Squat Clean and Jerk, 30 reps
The barbell goes from ground to overhead, passing through a front squat in which the crease of the hip passes below the height of the kneecap. The finish position is with the arms, hips and knees fully extended overhead, with at least a portion of the ear visible in front of the arm. Dropping the barbell is acceptable.
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Gillian is leading the women if you guys haven't checked yet. She has a 7 sec lead over Jolie going into the final day. 30 reps of squat clean and jerks at 100lbs. Let's hope her oly technique holds up. Speal has a 1 minute lead on the men's side and will probably win it.
Interesting discussion in yesterday's comments. Scaling happens usually because a person cannot do all the Work, or because they simply arent't strong enough to move the loads as rx'd. Crossfit typicaly lumps both groups into the same scaling boat which reduces load first, then reps. Both decrease the overall work completed. In the event that someone can complete the Work, but just not at the rx'd weight, it certainly makes sense to lower weight but increase reps so that the same work is being performed. In the instance of a grandmother, where work will simply not get finished, it's apropriate to scale load and reps down to decrease the overall Work.
scaled it a bit
115# (effin pussy)
13:24
brett, so maybe Ive should've added 10 reps to this then?
11:50 as Rx'd
Lots of people this morning and great efforts all round.
11:49 RX'd. Definitely need to work form on this movement
The unofficial word on the street is that Gillian has won it for the women! Congrats (unofficially)!!!
YAY! I am "unofficially" thrilled!!!
According to Dan R., who's out at the Games photographing events, Gillian took 2nd place. Whichever it turns out to be, I'm very impressed with Gillian's performance. Can't wait to see video, pics, etc.
Of course this is still unofficial info, but keep checking the Games site for official word: games.crossfit.com.
Hey everyone -- a brief update from the Games site.
Tanya Wagner from Crossfit APEX took first in the woman's even.
Gillian took second.
Josh Everett took home the gold for the men's competition.
Was an amazing time, we met so many amazing people and made some good friends too!
Photos and video will be posted later today.
Damn! Sorry about the misinformation. Stupid internet!
Either way, Gillian is still a rockstar and helluva competitor.
Dan R. says that Tanya Wagner won it for the women, Josh Everett for the men.
How did Mike and ANYC do?
Found the scoop on Tanya Wagner here:
http://www.crossfitapex.com/2008/01/1-27-08-rest-day_27.html
I only saw Jacinto's name among the competitors. Mike was more on the organizing side if I'm not mistaken, a bit surprised that A2 didn't compete. Congrats to Gillian, whichever place she ended up in.
On another note, I agree with comments posted elsewhere that the make up of the games was surprisingly on the short and heavy side. (No C2 at all??)
Whoops -- they're recomputing, so the standings may change. Will let you know ASAP.
Whoa! Exciting! Please do keep us posted, Dan.
OK -- I have photographs of the score sheets, so this is official information:
Men's
Jason Kalipa from CF Unlimited took first with times: 3:56 Thrusters, 2:37 Deadlift, 3:58 Run, and 2:46 Clean and Jerk. Total: 13:17
Josh Everett from Mike's Gym took second with times: 2:39 Thrusters, 2:55 Deadlift, 3:44 Run, and 4:17 Clean and Jerk. Total: 14:25
Jeremy Thiel from CF Central took third with times: 4:13 Thrusters, 2:56 Deadlift, 3:47 Run, and 3:52 Clean and Jerk. Total: 14:48
Then Pat Barber, Jeff Tincher, Rick Frausto, Dutch Lowy, and the list goes on.
Woman's
Caity Matter from CF (unlisted) took first with times: 6:58 Thrusters, 3:53 Deadlift, 4:49 Run, and 3:30 Clean and Jerk. Total: 19:10
Tanya Wager from CF APEX took second with times: 5:55 Thrusters, 4:10 Deadlift, 4:35 Run, and 4:40 Clean and Jerk. Total: 19:20
Tanya Wager from CF NYC took second with times: 5:17 Thrusters, 4:17 Deadlift, 5:03 Run, and 5:11 Clean and Jerk. Total: 19:48
Then Tamara Holmes, Jolie Gentry, Libby Dibiase, and Rebecca Voight
As RX’d:
Craig: 10:24
Kevin (Torch): 11:42
Jeff: 15:31
Ewen: 11:50
Mike S (visiting): 6:52
Adam: 10:48
Scaled:
Audrey: 17:19 (75 lbs)
Sameer: 13:17 72 lbs)
Juan G: 13:24 (115 lbs)
Dan Def: 11:50 (75 lbs)
Elise: 11:14 (75 lbs)
Zach: 9:30 (135 lbs, cleans, no jerks)
Josh R: 10:03 (115 lbs)
Ari: 10:28 (95 lbs)
Roxanne: 5:39 (75 lbs)
Hari: 11:52 (105 lbs)
Allison: 13:58 (75 lbs)
Other WODS:
Cedric: General Practice
Maura (Jacinto’s B’Day WOD)
Crap, error in cut and paste in the information above (I blame the heat stroke...) Accurate information is below.
-Dan
OK -- I have photographs of the score sheets, so this is official information:
Men's
Jason Kalipa from CF Unlimited took first with times: 3:56 Thrusters, 2:37 Deadlift, 3:58 Run, and 2:46 Clean and Jerk. Total: 13:17
Josh Everett from Mike's Gym took second with times: 2:39 Thrusters, 2:55 Deadlift, 3:44 Run, and 4:17 Clean and Jerk. Total: 14:25
Jeremy Thiel from CF Central took third with times: 4:13 Thrusters, 2:56 Deadlift, 3:47 Run, and 3:52 Clean and Jerk. Total: 14:48
Then Pat Barber, Jeff Tincher, Rick Frausto, Dutch Lowy, and the list goes on.
Woman's
Caity Matter from CF (unlisted) took first with times: 6:58 Thrusters, 3:53 Deadlift, 4:49 Run, and 3:30 Clean and Jerk. Total: 19:10
Tanya Wager from CF APEX took second with times: 5:55 Thrusters, 4:10 Deadlift, 4:35 Run, and 4:40 Clean and Jerk. Total: 19:20
Gillian Mounsey, from CF NYC took second with times: 5:17 Thrusters, 4:17 Deadlift, 5:03 Run, and 5:11 Clean and Jerk. Total: 19:48
Then Tamara Holmes, Jolie Gentry, Libby Dibiase, and Rebecca Voight
Regardless, still an incredibly impressive showing by Gillian. Very proud of the Black Box crew out in CA!
See Caity here:
http://www.roguefitness.com/journal/crossfit_games_training_log/
I have to say, I think that I think the 155lb clean and jerk "event" was a bad choice for the games.
My reasoning? Well, the games is a test of who is the best Crossfitter. Well what is Crossfit? For me, being good at Crossfit means doing the day by day wods posted on the official Crossfit site.
I think the two heavy lifting wods that appeared in the games, don't reflect the last year of wod's posted on the main site. Especially the 155lb c&j.
It might be reasonable to expect Grace, given that it's a standard benchmark wod that has appeared over the last year. Thus any Crossfitter who follows the wods would have done it and consider it a possibility for a hopper. But I don't think throwing in a much heavier Grace is fair on people like speal, who by their own admission, train by going by the wods on the main site.
To throw up an exaggerated example, it would be like a 10km run not showing up in the wods for a year and then asking the games athletes to do one.
It also might be reasonable to expect something longer than a 750m run. We run a decent amount of 5ks and 10ks and so one expects a Crossfitter to be able to do that. Isn't part of being a Crossfitter having a longer term aerobic capacity too?
I think the biggest indicator of what an effect this wod had on the games result is this:
Speal (135lbs) was only 8 seconds slower on the 275lb deadlift wod, than the guy that got the fastest time on that wod. Speal then won the fran and running wods.
However, Speal was a total 5mins slower on the 155 C&j wod than the guy that ended up winning the games.
Indeed, if you look at all the times for the C&J wod, they are on average a good few minutes slower than all three other wods. Basically showing that the games results were affected more by this wod, than by the others.
ie: The games results hinged more on Oly technique, than overall work capacity.
Thoughts?
Seeing Speal drop from first place to tenth reinforces my belief that athletes should be allowed to demonstrate work capacity on the WOD's by an alternate but equal combination of weight times reps (e.g., 30 reps @ 155 lbs = 40 reps @ 119 lbs).
Had Speal (and anyone else) been able to use 3/4 the weight and 4/3 the reps (40 reps) on the C&J, I think the outcome would have been significantly different; yet the work would have been unchanged.
3/4 of the weight would still have been about 90% of Speal's bodyweight, and forcing him to do 40 of the lighter weight rather than 30 reps of the heavier weight would certainly have put him on a more equal footing with bigger athletes.
Congratulations, Gillian!
Would it have been any more or less fair if the hopper threw out 50 Muscle Ups instead of the heavy C&J? Since it is a body weight exercise this would give Speal a distinct advantage since he is pulling less weight.
My thought is that it would be neither more or less fair. The hopper style workout* is blind to the participants involved and whatever comes up is what needs to be done, much like life.
*This is in assumption that the hopper was used. I am pretty certain it was but I have no conformation as to whether it was used.
Way to go, Gillian!
In other news, I was DFL!
Yeah Jeff but you did it as rx'd and it was your bodyweight you C & J'ed for 30 reps. Thats awesome!!
congrats Gillian!
bummer that its a rest day since sat and sunday were rest days for me! what are we doing today?
Yeah Jeff, you better believe that I would never have taken only 15' to do 30x Cl+J @185 pounds. I don't know if a competition can or should be scaled, but Hari's method of scaling seems appropriate for weighted WODs in a training context.
Sam makes a good point. The Games' results were mostly determined by the final Heavy Grace. I'm no statistician, but I think the numbers below are interesting (as part of our over-analysis of an event unheard of outside the CF microcosm).
Spread (slowest time - fastest time) of top 20 men for each workout:
Fran: 2:28, 13/20 competitors were within 1:30 of the best time
DL: 1:29, 12/20 within :30, 17/20 within 1:00
Run: 1:12, 10/20 within :30, 18/20 within 1:00 (Note that the only monostructural metcon event produced the longest average time for the first day but the least difference among top competitors.)
After 3 events: 2:56, Speal leading by a minute, 11/20 within 2 minutes
C&J: 6:41, best time was 1:06 faster than closest time in top 20, 3 competitors within 2 minutes, 13/20 within 3 minutes. (If you take out Khalipa and Speal, the spread is still 2:37, with 4 competitors within 1 minute, 6 within 1:30 and 14 within 2:00 of the 2nd best time)
Final results: 5:01, Khalipa wins by a minute, 4/20 within 2 minutes, 8/20 within 3 minutes
Notable changes between day 1 and day 2: Speal drops from 1 to 10; Frausto drops from 2 to 6; OPT drops from 5 to 12; Brett Marshall drops from 10 to 37. Khalipa goes from 8 to 1; Thiel goes from 11 to 3; Brainerd goes from 15 to 9; Lipson goes from 43 to 14.
Things aren't as clear-cut for the women, with both Fran and the C&J having a significant impact on the standings and the DL and run having very little.
i think weight classes should be implemented for the games.